VidMid VC Conference Call February 9, 2004
*Attendees*
Nadim El-Khoury, UNC
Jill Gemmill, UAB
Tyler Johnson, UAB
Ann West, Internet2/Educause
Lisa Hogeboom, Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2
Jeanette Fielden, Internet2
*Discussion* Tyler shared that the ITU liked the submitted PKI proposal and has invited more work on federations. He has a better idea of how the work will fit into the ITU and believes that the federated and PKI work should be moved forward together as a single proposal not separately.
VidMid VC Work plan Nadim indicated that it would be useful to include flow diagrams regarding how Shibboleth might fit with federations. Tyler stressed that it is important to write the functional requirements for security first and what problems it will solve and then see if Shibboleth and other technologies will fit into those requirements. Jill indicated that Liberty Alliance and other approaches need to be discussed as well as inter-federation operation and general security issues outside of authentication and authorization. [AI] Nadim: will send a request to the Shib users list to see if there is a Shibboleth API. [AI] Tyler will put together a two-page proposal on security and incorporate the firewall work as an option.
Tyler suggested that scenarios be developed before work is done on the PKI, Shib and SAML aspects in the VidMid VC work plan. The other work plan items such as vconf and H.350 items can happen independently of the security work.
The php code to help deploy and configure the database should be ready by the workshop in March in Minneapolis. It is not a total drop in solution but for people who have some familiarity with php. [AI] Jill: will talk to Ann about course space at the camp meetings, Boulder/San Diego.
Jill asked why H.350 was not part of the February camp agenda? Ann indicated that the camp was targeted at campuses just starting out that weren't doing much with applications. The cd distributed did include links to the H.350 specifications and LDIF's. H.350 might fit into the fall workshop agenda.
Should VidMid VC work on a pre-configured drop in solution that a zone administrator could get up and running without waiting on the LDAP administrator to augment the enterprise schema with H.350? Or should it be left to commercial companies? This is a chicken and egg problem. There is an H.350 gatekeeper, which is waiting on H.350 deployment. The tool needed is an H.350 directory to solve the issue of getting directories deployed to use the gatekeeper. The feeling was it would be good to explore working directly with the Internet2 partners to build use cases. Ann suggested talking with Nancy Hayes about possibly doing an article for Educause. [AI] Jill: will forward an article she has written as background on H.350.
Steve asked what the future plans for revisions to cookbook are. Jill indicated there would be a 1.0 version that will have more detailed information about configuring the ACI rules and how to configure the directory server. The code snippet for developers will be included. The date when that will happen is not finalized.
The general approach to the VidMid VC work plan is to come up with a finite list and find someone to head up each area. If an item does not have a champion then it will be eliminated for the moment. [AI] Steve and Nadim will brainstorm about how to increase participation in VidMid VC.
Collaboration with other Internet2 groups Nadim is participating in MedMid, mace-dir, and the MACE group's lists/calls to see if anything they are working on intersects with VidMid VC. The presence group (PIC) and Shibboleth are two other groups that may be worthwhile to participate in. The Real Time Communication Summit at the Internet2 Member Meeting will be an opportunity to discuss possible areas of collaboration with these working groups. It brings together the groups working on real time communications, VidMid VC, PIC, I2IM, The Commons and VoIP to put together a panel of speakers and Q&A about efforts and opportunities for collaboration and synergy. E-mails can be sent beforehand to lay the groundwork with the groups.
Submissions for the BoF's are due by the 23rd of February.
The next call will be February 23, 2004.