MACE-MList call, 26-Oct-05

*Attendees*

Jill Gemmill, University of Alabama at Birmingham (chair)
Paul Russell, University of Notre Dame
Serge Aumont, Comité Réseau des Universités (FR)
Olivier Salaün, Comité Réseau des Universités (FR)
George Brett, Internet2
Lisa Hogeboom, Internet2
Neal McBurnett, Internet2
Lynn Little, Internet2
Katherine Strojny, Internet2 (scribe)

*Action Items*

New:

[AI] {Jill} will send the letter to MACE regarding a proposed scope change that would include facilitation between Domain Keys Identified Mail (DKIM) drafters and mailing list developers.

[AI] {Jill} will request {SteveO} (as MLIST mailing list owner) to allow subscribed members of this group to view other list members.

[AI] {George} will draft a paragraph describing a proposed survey of work collaboration tools currently used in the Internet2 community, with a focus on middleware-enabling them. {George} will send this description to others interested in developing the survey and find out if the Wednesday conference call time is a good time for them to meet.

Carry Over:

[AI] {SteveO} How many downloads of the RPMs have occurred so far, from the Internet2 website? SteveO will be asked to provide the stats.

*Discussion*

Intellectual Property Reminder:
The Internet2 intellectual property policy can be found here:
       http://members.internet2.edu/intellectualproperty.html

The agenda included a discussion of a draft letter to MACE regarding possible facilitation between DKIM drafters and mailing list developers, and a discussion of a proposed work collaboration tool survey.

Jill requested comments from the group on the draft letter to MACE, regarding a possible change in the group direction to include facilitation between DKIM drafters and mailing list developers. The group approved the draft. [AI] The next step will be for {Jill} to send the letter to MACE.

A number of members of this group are monitoring the DKIM list. It was observed that it is very difficult to participate because of the high traffic on the list. If this group becomes involved in the proposed facilitation, one of the main challenges may be how to convey mailing list position without having to jump into the lengthy discussions. One possible solution would be to organize a special meeting involving mailing list developers.

On Jill's recommendation, the action item involving a Virtual Organization (VO) survey was dropped since it would have repeated work done in similar surveys. She presented a collection of results from prior surveys.

Instead of pursuing the VO survey, the group will look toward surveying collaboration tools used in the Internet2 community, such as wiki and blogging software. The survey would focus on identifying commonality and defining requirements toward middleware-enabling the tools. George pointed out that the EDUCAUSE community may also have an interest in the survey. [AI] {George} will draft a paragraph describing a proposed survey, and then send this description to others interested in developing the survey. He'll find out if the Wednesday conference call time is a good time for them to meet. George also invited any suggestions on how to make the survey useful and at the same time doable, given workloads.

Olivier suggested that it would be helpful if subscribed list members could view who else is on the list. [AI] {Jill} will request that {SteveO} (as MLIST mailing list owner) enable subscribed members of this group to view other list members.

Action items from the prior call were reviewed. Most action items were completed or replaced. Minutes of the previous meeting were approved.

The next call will take place in two weeks, on 9-Nov-05. Agenda and bridge will go out to the list in advance of the call.