*Attendees*
John Paschoud, London School of Economics
Ingrid Melve, UNINETT
Diego Lopez, RedIRIS
Keith Hazelton, U. Wisconsin
Jon Mason, Standards Australia
Maja Gorecka-Wolniewicz, Nicolaus Copernicus University
Jeanette Fielden, Internet2

*Discussion*

The purpose of the first International Schema call is to define the scope of work, first goals and timetables.

John Paschoud described work at LSE. They have been funded to do a scoping study for UK eduPerson for JISC in the January to May time frame. They are looking at scoping the set of common attributes with eduPerson and to define where the boundaries are for what is controlled internationally by eduPerson and what should be controlled nationally. They want to make sure there is a domain space for national definitions so they don’t collide with each other. A large portion of use across institutional domains will stay within the country but there will be small but significant connections between countries.

[AI] John Paschoud will send their proposal for UK eduPerson scoping and JISC RFP to the list.

Maja said Poland is using eduPerson. They do have some attribute issues. In the Polish academic community titles are used, and they want to include that in the white pages. In X.500 they use the person type to accomplish this. Would that go in a Polish eduPerson class or should it be defined more generally in eduPerson?

It would be extremely useful to look at what people are using/proposing so differences, overlaps etc. between country eduPerson’s could be identified. A protected site can be created so people feel comfortable sharing the information. It was agreed that this a good first item of work. Ingrid is trying to assemble a web page with the information she has collected. It has been difficult since many of the country eduPerson’s aren’t published.

[AI] Ingrid: Will send the URL for the site where the country eduPerson's will be stored to the list.

[AI] All: Please send county eduPerson drafts that you are willing to share to the list

Keith suggested three "buckets" attributes can be placed in.
1.The attributes defined in existing object classes.
2. Attributes at the national scale.
3. The institutional level, which may not be in scope due to time.

The focus will be on national attributes, acknowledging that some items for international use may come out of the national discussions where syntax and semantics for international use would have to be agreed on. To keep the scope and time frame reasonable the focus should be tightly maintained on the national attributes and what should be in that area.

[AI] Keith: Will forward the TERENA deep survey about attributes to the list.

Jon Mason indicated there is a project in Australia focused on access management in a broad sense for higher education and not quite as narrow as initiatives for K-12 in Australia. They participate in ISO at the SC-36 level. There is currently a draft standard on participant identifiers in ISO. He is also involved in the IEEE Learnings Technology Standards Committee and the IMS LIP (Learning Information Package) group so he can keep us updated on developments across those groups.

[AI] Jon Mason: will check on accessibility of the ISO participant identifier draft.

People interested in actively participating in the International Schema group work are welcome to join the calls and list. Those that want to monitor what the group is working on are welcome to join the list.

Calls will be every two weeks. Next call will be Thursday January 15th, 2004.