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Minutes From The 8/12/04 Bimonthly Meeting

 


Agenda
Participants
  • Review of Action Items
  • Pilot Progress report
  • Report from meeting with Other Groups
  • George Brett - Internet2 (scribe)
  • Chas DiFatta - CMU (chair)
  • Mark Poepping - Internet2
  • Steve Olshansky - Internet2
  • Matt Zekauskus - Internet2
  • Russ Hobby - Internet2

Action Items

  • Chas to send Eric email to begin discussion about where fit will be.
  • Matt will help shepherd to get Network process scenario. Find some one to help write that. Matt will talk Russ into helping
  • Put common event record information on the public web page.

Agenda Items

Review of Previous Action Items

Chas opened the call with a update on the status of past action items.
  • Chas, Matt had a very productive meeting. This included an update on new roles for Matt, Russ, and Eric at Internet2. Eric needs to sit down and talk with MW e2eD and see how they dovetail together well. Chas said he just got off a good call with Eric about the work that a vendor is doing that fits well with diagnostics. There are a lot of pieces of the End-to-End Performance Initiative architecture that seem to fit. Need to start talking about this. Matt will help shepherd this process.
  • Chas spoke with Penn State people who manage the network and are responsible for Shibboleth at Penn State. Renee Shuey helped make this happen. They are deploying Shibboleth on production scale. This is a good solution for making this happen. The person Chas spoke with is Mark Miller. They talked about a wide variety of things including: helpdesk, operational staff, problems with Shib. They are running into issues that go beyond installation. Mark said they need a verification checker which would answer if the certificate has expired, to pool data, to check the pipeline down the chain. Chas is going to check in with Mark again at the end of the month since at the moment he is in the midst of a new deployment and students are coming in. Chas has plans to go meet with them when he goes back to Pittsburgh.
  • Chas, Ken, Mark and George continue working on the Year Two and Year Three documents, deliveries, goals, key partners, etc., etc.

Pilot Progress

The pilot continues making good progress. They are logging real time events. Everything is working. They are capturing Windows Installer events. Netflow v.5 is now working. The event viewer application is running. There's a log normalizer on the Microsoft side. The SQL-izer that converts data to SQL database format will be done by next week.

What's left for Chas is to write the Archiver System. The bulk archiver will most likely be a time based schema.

There is currently data being captured that can be viewed at the ccBay site.

Chas told Matt yesterday that he knew from the beginning that it would be interesting to focus on efficiencies in representation. With the pilot they threw out efficiencies in order to check concept. It's been good collecting libraries and tools gather data. Now it's time to begin thinking about what the data layout would look like. Transport mechanism for the data will be an important thing to think about.

Reports from Meetings with Other Groups

Matt did not have time to meet with Katherine (INCH-RIDD) during IETF meeting. He said that he didn't see the group on the agenda either.

Chas plans on getting together with Matt and Eric at least during the Internet2 Fall Member Meeting. Sounds like what Eric was saying is very similar to what working on. Matt commented that the DANTE network architecture looks similar to MW e2eD work. He wondered about how the various network preformance ideas work with the MW e2eD diagnostics. They will talk more about this at later meeting.

There were comments about talking with SURFNet folks later in the month to work out complimentary pieces of MW e2eD and the SURFNet Detective.

The call was adjourned.

 

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