**MACE-Dir Call 26-September-2011**

**Attending**
Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (stand-in chair, scribe)
Todd Piket, MNSCU
Chris Phillips, CANARIE
David Bantz, U. Alaska - Fairbanks
Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.
Nate Klingenstein, Internet2
RL "Bob" Morgan, U. Washington

**Next call: 10-October-2011 3:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

[AI] (SteveO) will add text to the session blurb for the I2MM session directing attendees to review the Guest Identity Survey Results and Account Linking document.

**Carryover Action Items**
[AI] (Keith) will propose a discuss-starter on the subject of whether there should be MACE-Dir attribute specifications for Grouper objects: Role, Privilege, Subject, (others).
[AI] (RL "Bob") will distribute information about the UW person registry web service.
[AI] (Keith) will draft a problem statement on person and organization identifiers from social IdPs related to VOs, as a discussion starter, and will refer to IPEDS for reference.
[AI] (Brendan) will distribute some reference materials related to person and organization identifiers from PESC.
[AI] (Keith) will send a discussion starter on the use of eduCourse to the mailing list.
[AI] (Keith: OBE) will develop a Bamboo use case for persistent identifiers.
[AI] (Keith: OBE) will write up the current state of the identifier discussion and apparent consensus, and associated explanatory material, for use by REFEDs.
[AI] (Keith) will edit the previous versions of the SAML Attribute Profiles documents to note that they have been superseded by a newer
version:
http://docs.oasis-open.org/security/saml/SpecDrafts-Post2.0/sstc-saml-attribute-x500-cd-01.pdf
http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/docs/internet2-mace-dir-saml-attributes-200604.pdf
http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/docs/draft-internet2-mace-dir-saml-attributes-20071202.pdf
http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/docs/internet2-mace-dir-saml-attributes-200804.pdf
http://wiki.oasis-open.org/security/SstcSaml2AttributeX500Profile
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/download.php/28042/sstc-saml-attribute-x500-cs-01.pdf
See also:
http://www.edugain.org/policy/edugain_policy_build20110124/attribute_profile_20101215.pdf
[AI] (Brendan) will poll the mailing list for feedback on the use of name fields, and whether they have had the need to extend eduPerson locally with additional name fields.

**Discussion**
1. Guest Identities Survey Results
http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/GuestID/SurveySummary.html

There were a broad range of responses, making a concise summary a bit challenging.

Would a summary support conclusions and decision making, or is this more informational in nature?

It was noted that there is some ambiguity in some of the responses

2. Plans for MACE-Dir session at the Internet2 Fall Member Meeting:
Monday. October 03, 2011, 8:00 AM - 9:00 AM EDT
Location: 306B

Agenda:
- Representing people and their roles in courses. (eduCourse, eduCourseMember)
- Guest Identity Survey Results
- Account linking
https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/fedapp/Account+Linking
- Recommendations on alternative identifiers - social identities

[AI] (SteveO) will add text to the session blurb for the I2MM session directing attendees to review the Guest Identity Survey Results and Account Linking document.