MACE-Dir Call 24-August-2009

**Attending**
Brendan Bellina, USC (chair)

Etan Weintraub, Johns Hopkins U.

Michael Pelikan, The Penn State U.

Ann West, Internet2/Educause

Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.

Paul Hill, MIT

RL "Bob" Morgan, U. Washington

Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

**Next call 21-Sep-2009 4:30 PM EDT**

(there will be no call on 7-Sep due to the US Labor Day Holiday; there will also be no call on 5-Oct due to the Internet2 Member Meeting)

**Carryover Action Items**

[AI] (Mike) review the LocalDomainPerson survey results and the Shibboleth attribute naming documentation with an eye toward useful attributes to generalize, as a reference for naming guidelines and base attributes to propose.

http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/localsurvey.html

http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/docs/internet2-mace-dir-localdomainperson-200505.html

[AI] (RL "Bob") will craft a survey on use of the mail attribute and possible need for additional email attributes.

[AI] (Brendan) will poll the mailing list for feedback on the use of name fields, and whether they have had the need to extend eduPerson locally with additional name fields.

[AI] (Brendan) will coordinate with the leaders of the Educause IdM Constituent Group, toward the goal of polling that group along with MACE-Dir for feedback on the use of commercial and open-source IdM products.

**Discussion**

- Update on NISO I2 (Institutional Identifier) effort <http://www.niso.org/workrooms/i2>

Brendan reviewed this effort, apparently stemming from librarians seeking more structure. There are currently 3 working groups, meeting monthly:

- Electronic resources supply chain

- Institutional repositories

- Library resource management

The Institutional repositories WG did a survey on institutional identifiers, and found "the handle" to be most prevalent (20%):

http://www.handle.net/

They are also working on a draft of a list of institutional identifiers, which Brendan will share when it is ready. It defines a large number of relationships between institutions, and seeks to define more rather than less attributes -- as many as they perceive that any institution may need in order to be of maximum utility to as many institutions as possible.

The semantic web definitions have been recently brought up for discussion, as has the Academic Institution Internal Structure Ontology (AIISO).

It remains to be seen if there turns out to be a driver for MACE-Dir to update any of its schema...

The question was raised about higher-ed participation. Emory, Rutgers, Claremont are involved, as is the Library of Congress. There are also a number of vendors involved.

NISO's goal is to reach consensus on institutional identifiers by the end of 2009.

- National Student Clearinghouse (NSC)

RL "Bob" gave a brief update, noting that there is not a lot of info available. NSC has gone production in InCommon, using the attribute names and values suggested to them by Bob - as PESC URLs.

U. Washington is not yet in production with NSC.

- InCommon

They are continuing to work with the federal gov't toward interoperation, with the successor to what was previously known at eAuth. There are some consumer-driven privacy concerns they are working to address.

See for reference:

http://idmanagement.gov/