**MACE-Dir Call 20-April-2009**

=> Next call 18-May 4:30 PM EDT (canceling May 4 due to proximity to the I2MM)

**Attending**

Brendan Bellina, USC (chair)

Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.

Tom Barton, U. Chicago

Ann West, Internet2

Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

**New Action Items**

[AI] (All) who will be attending the MACE-Dir session at the I2MM and have ideas for the presentation, contact Brendan

*Carryover Action Items*

[AI] (Mike) review the LocalDomainPerson survey results and the Shibboleth attribute naming documentation with an eye toward useful attributes to generalize, as a reference for naming guidelines and base attributes to propose.

http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/localsurvey.html

http://middleware.internet2.edu/dir/docs/internet2-mace-dir-localdomainperson-200505.html

[AI] (RL "Bob") will craft a survey on use of the mail attribute and possible need for additional email attributes.

[AI] (Brendan) will poll the mailing list for feedback on the use of name fields, and whether they have had the need to extend eduPerson locally with additional name fields.

[AI] (Brendan) will coordinate with the leaders of the Educause IdM Constituent Group, toward the goal of polling that group along with MACE-Dir for feedback on the use of commercial and open-source IdM products.

**Discussion**

- I2MM MACE-Dir working group session discussion

Monday, April 27, 2009, 8:00 AM - 9:00 AM

- Review of this year

- Groups survey

- Future direction of MACE-Dir

There was a brief discussion of the session plans, and potential future topics including LoA and various identifiers (e.g. grid). Also, acting as a conduit between the Higher Ed community and others working on related topics would seem to be a logical role for MACE-Dir.

The relationship between eduPerson and OpenID and InfoCard was also cited as potential future topics...

Using eduPerson to create consistency in the use of SAML in other industries arose as a question. Would more generically-named attributes be more inclusive?

Organizational identifiers also arose, with the question of whether the previous eduOrg work would suffice or if this would merit further work.

Privilege/Access management continues to be of interest, dovetailing with the MACE-paccman work.

- Call Frequency-

There was a discussion of whether biweekly calls seem to be the right frequency, and consensus was that it would be wise to keep this slot on calendars but be open to canceling calls if there are no burning agenda items.