**MACE-Dir Call 1-Dec-08**

**Attending**

Brendan Bellina, USC (chair)

Tom Barton, U. Chicago

Paul Hill, MIT

Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.

Ann West, Internet2

Joy Veronneau, Cornell U.

RL "Bob" Morgan, U. Washington

Renee Frost, Internet2

Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

**New Action Items**

[AI] (All interested) in participating in the NISO effort contact Brendan.

*Carryover Action Items*

[AI] (Bill Weems) will share a whitepaper addressing global Identity Management.

[AI] (Tim Crouch) Craft a survey on eduCourse adoption and usage.

[AI] (RL "Bob") will craft a survey on use of the mail attribute and possible need for additional email attributes.

[AI] (Etan) will incorporate feedback and revise the Group Usage survey ASAP, and work with SteveO to get it into SurveyMonkey. See <https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/macedir/Survey+on+Group+Usage>

[AI] (Brendan) will poll the mailing list for feedback on the use of name fields, and whether they have had the need to extend eduPerson locally with additional name fields.

[AI] (Brendan) will coordinate with the leaders of the Educause IdM Constituent Group, toward the goal of polling that group along with MACE-Dir for feedback on the use of commercial and open-source IdM products.

**Discussion**

1. (RL "Bob") Update on Stanford/NSC

Bob reported that technical testing is under way. Some pilot attribute definitions have been proposed and are being utilized. This is expected to be a topic at the upcoming "CAMP: Delivering, Sourcing, and Securing Services Throughout the Student Identity Life Cycle" in Tempe February 2009.

http://net.educause.edu/content.asp?SECTION_ID=393&bhcp=1

There is hope that PESC would participate, more on this as it develops.

2. (Brendan) Report on National Information Standards Organization (NISO)-I2 (not Internet2) E-Learning working group: http://www.niso.org/workrooms/i2/

- NISO Institutional Identifiers wg is another group seeking to solve the problem of needed organizational identifiers and associated metadata (and associated management plan) for use with electronic services and published resources.

The intention is to reach at least a preliminary framework by 2Q2009.

It was observed that institutional/organizational identifiers are a key topic of interest to several groups, coming at it from different directions and with different requirements, but potentially converging on somewhat similar solutions.

If we could work to dovetail or otherwise coordinate these efforts it would seem to be a positive step, however it may be that a unified view of the problem is not practical given all of the variables at play. It may make more sense for us to monitor and when/if solutions develop in other forums, leverage them to the extent possible. Brendan will report back on this as events warrant.

[AI] (All interested) in participating in the NISO effort contact Brendan.

- Next Call: Monday 15-Dec-2008 4:30 PM EST