**MACE Call 29-September-08**

**Attending**
RL “Bob” Morgan, U. Washington (chair)
Leif Johansson, Stockholm University / SUNET
Jens Haeusser, University of British Columbia
Tom Barton, U. Chicago
Renee Shuey, The Pennsylvania State U.
Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.
Ann West, Internet2/Educause
Renee Frost, Internet2
Jim Jokl, U. Virginia
Neal McBurnett, Internet2
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Diego Lopez, RedIRIS
Steven Carmody, Brown U.
David Wasley, independent
Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

**Recent meetings**
Berkman Internet Safety Technical Task Force (ISTTF) Open Meeting
September 23-24, 2008, Harvard Law School
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/2008/09/isttf

Focus is child safety on the Internet (esp. MySpace, FaceBook, and
similar platforms), with numerous services and applications being
pitched to serve this purpose. One of the goals is to preempt
legislation by addressing these issues proactively. The feasibility of
various approaches was a subject of interest, with IAM technologies one
of the avenues being explored. A report will be forthcoming.

- CSG
September 24-26, 2008, Cornell University
http://www.stonesoup.org/

* Upcoming Meetings*
- JA-SIG UnConference
October 6-8, 2008, Madison WI
More on this as info is available.
http://www.ja-sig.org/
Planning is under way, and information is becoming available on the
website. There will be meetings between key developers from the
Shibboleth and CAS and uPortal projects. Tom and Scott will be attending.

- Fall Internet2 Member Meeting
October 13-16, 2008, New Orleans
http://events.internet2.edu/2008/fall-mm/
Middleware and Security events of interest are collected at:
http://events.internet2.edu/2008/fall-mm/highlights-mw-sec.html

Note that AMSAC will be holding an open meeting Monday afternoon and
MACE is encouraged to attend. We will try to arrange a specific time for
MACE input within the 3-hour session. There will likely also be a more
focused meeting setup in the near future between AMSAC and MACE. More on
this as it develops.

There will be a follow-on to the recent interfederation (Federation
Soup) workshop on Sunday afternoon 4:30-6:30.
http://events.internet2.edu/2008/fall-mm/sessionDetails.cfm?session=10000280&event=911

- Educause Annual Meeting
October 28-31, 2008, Orlando FL
http://net.educause.edu/e08
There will be a number of IAM-oriented sessions, more info on this as it
becomes available. There will also be an InCommon BoF, details TBD.

- Fall EuroCAMP
November 5-6, 2008, Athens
Brendan Bellina, USC (MACE-Dir chair) will be attending.
http://www.terena.org/activities/eurocamp/nov08/

- IETF
November 16-21, 2008, Minneapolis
http://www.ietf.org/meetings/73/
RL “Bob” is working with ISOC on assembling e-mail admins just prior to
the meeting, toward promoting a DKIM pilot. The question was raised
about the current state of SPF v. DKIM, and this subject will likely be
addressed at the meeting.

It was noted that signature verification is only part of the overall
problem, others are key management for validation (DNS is the standard
approach), and the meaning assigned by knowing that a message was signed
by a particular party (e.g. federation participant v. unknown party).

- TF-EMC2/REFEDS – next meeting
http://www.terena.org/activities/refeds/
This is still in the early stages of planning. It may be appended to the
November 2008 TF-EMC2 meeting.

- Fall Internet Identity Workshop
November 10-12, 2008, Mountain View, CA
http://iiw.idcommons.net/index.php/Iiw2008b

- Feb 2009 CAMP
Tempe, AZ, Date/Topics TBD
IdM for student services will likely be the topic. More on this will be
forthcoming as info is available.

- June 2009 CAMPs/ITANA
Discussion is underway about how to organize and align these 2 meetings.
It was noted that there is less of a natural alignment between these
moving forward. Current thinking is to do CAMP and Advanced CAMP
together in one week, and let ITANA hold their meeting separately. There
are potentially other meetings that would be a better fit to couple with
ITANA.

The June CAMP Topic may cover Grouper and AuthZ, and Advanced CAMP may
cover KUALI in some way.

ITANA is considering 3 meetings per year: Constituent Group at the
Educause Annual (more of a marketing focus), Working meeting in January
coincident with CSG in Boulder, and a general meeting aimed at a more
broad audience of architects.

There was discussion about potential funding for Advanced CAMPS coming
from a different external source. This will be explored, more on this as
it develops.

Ken and others interested will discuss this at the upcoming Fall
Internet2 Member Meeting, and will put together a one-pager describing
Advanced CAMPS and funding needs for use in furthering discussions with
potential funding sources.

*Discussion*
- KIM (Kuali IdM) and Kuali Rice
There were discussions on this topic at the recent CSG meeting. Rice has
become a funded project alongside the other Kuali project, and this may
include funding sources and representation from the other sister
projects. Rice consists of several different modules, including KIM
(Kuali IdM). A release is projected for 1Q2009, to coincide with a
release of Kuali Financials which will take advantage of some of this
functionality.

It was noted that another open source IdM project is getting underway
under the JA-SIG umbrella, led out of Rutgers. The focus appears to be
on an open person registry/repository, and on exploring current IdM
projects for potential synergy with their direction. It is unknown what
if any alignment there will be between this and other current projects
ongoing.

It was noted that inter-institutional use cases (e.g. Kuali Student) are
of interest in the federation context.

- Next steps for Signet/privilege management
There was a discussion of the current status and future direction of the
Signet project.