MACE Call 29-August-2011

**MACE Call 29-August-2011**

**Attending**
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.
Michael Gettes, Carnegie Mellon U.
Jim Jokl, U. Virginia
Renee Shuey, Penn State U.
Leif Johansson, SUNET/NORDUnet
Keith Hazelton, U. Wisconsin - Madison
Steven Carmody, Brown U.
David Wasley, independent
Ann West, Internet2
Nate Klingenstein, Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

NEXT CALL: 12-Sep-2011
Theme: TBD

**New Action Items**
[AI] (Keith) will invite a Fluid rep for dinner theater at the Fall 2011 I2MM.

**Carryover Action Items**
[AI] (All) interested in participating in the OSIdM4HE effort contact Bob.
[AI] (All) discuss further ideas on IAM suite collaboration on the mailing list.
[AI] (All) send seedcorn suggestions to Ken.
[AI] (Ken) will distribute the CRU taxonomy of SPs
[AI] (Ken) will send out a link to relevant GENI IdM information.
[AI] (Keith) will write up the current state of the identifier discussion and apparent consensus, and associated explanatory material, for use by REFEDs.
[AI] (Ken) will coordinate a small working group with Heather to look into access control and IdM layer requirements for shared file services, calendaring, and web-conferencing in a federation-centric context.
[AI] (All) with suggestions for other foundations that the Shib Consortium could eventually be embedded in are encouraged to discuss them on the list.
[AI] (Ken) will convene a small subgroup of MACE to consider the seed corn issues in more depth and report back on a forthcoming call, soon.
[AI] (Ken) will invite Mike Conlin (U. Florida), the VIVO PI, to a forthcoming MACE call.
[AI] (Keith) will maintain an issues list to inform a potential new charter for MACE-DirNG, syncing it with the FedApps charter.
[AI] (RLBob, Scott, and SteveO) will proceed with the process of formalizing the FedApps working group, including setting up a list/wiki/website, and advertise it in the appropriate venues.
[AI] (Ken) will draft a one-pager about what MACE does and what questions it has, for review by MACE, as a discussion guide with Internet2 leadership.
[AI] (Ken) will distribute a draft requirements framework for VO support engagement
[AI] (David) will contact GSA for an update on the approval process for InCommon Silver.
[AI] (Ken) will send out info on DHS secure online transactions
[AI] (Ken) will follow up on a MACE/AMSAC call.
[AI] (Ken) will follow up with Kuali/Rice about I2MI collaboration.
[AI] (Ken) will draft a catalyst doc, covering the key items to be addressed in advising VOs how to use our infrastructure.
[AI] (Leif) will contact Ken/Steven/Tom about potential overlaps between the SDCI proposal and projects in the EU.
[AI] (Jens) will speak to an Eduroam rep about communicating with Educause.
[AI] (Ken) will draft and circulate a letter to Rice leadership, requesting input to roadmaps and use cases, and to ensure our projects with Kuali projects are aligned with their high-level strategic direction.
[AI] (Nate) will distribute information to the list about upcoming tactical issues facing MACE
[AI] (All) send Bamboo IAM comments to Tom ASAP for coordination.
[AI] (All) interested in participating in the international collaboration activity contact RL "Bob."
[AI] (RL "Bob") will contact a representative of Kuali Rice about coordinating a call.
[AI] (Ken and Mark) will distribute some information on trust anchors in the context of dynamic network configuration in GENI testbed, as well as for general access control.
[AI] (Ken) will circulate some meeting notes from the last TERENA/ REFEDS meetings.

**Upcoming Meetings**
https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/MACECalendar/MACE+Calendar

- REFEDS
September 14, 2011, Helsinki, Finland
http://www.terena.org/events/details.php?event_id=2067
Video link is TBD, via AcrobatConnect. Info forthcoming from Leif.

ARPs and attribute bundles, and PEER (including potential business models) are expected to be prominent topics. Business models for federations is also on the agenda, e.g. charging for SPs, and the role of federations as business aggregators.

ISOC may be interested in playing a role in PEER, at the top level. More on this as it develops...

- OIX
http://openidentityexchange.org/

- Fall I2MM
October 3-6, 2011, Raleigh, NC
http://events.internet2.edu/2011/fall-mm/
There will be a mini-REFEDS meeting Sunday morning 2-Oct. 9am-noon. This will likely have little overlap with the group meeting in Helsinki, and the agenda is still in progress.

Dinner theater is TBD, perhaps someone from Fluid?
[AI] (Keith) will invite a Fluid rep for dinner theater at the Fall 2011 I2MM.

- IIW
October 18, 2011, Mountain View, CA
http://www.internetidentityworkshop.com/
https://iiw13.eventbrite.com/

There will be an NSTIC day as part of this.

**Discussion**

* Kantara attribute discussion group / OASIS step up authentication (aka trust elevation) group
http://kantarainitiative.org/confluence/display/AMDG/Home
http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/tc_home.php?wg_abbrev=trust-el

An attribute assurance framework has been discussed in the OIX context, which has led to some preliminary work in this space. Connected to this is some work under way at Google about using other information known about a user to increase LoA (e.g. cell billing records). All are welcome to participate in the Kantara group.

Peter Alterman is leading the OASIS Trust Elevation effort.

* topic for next theme call
Suggestions included:
- DoEd representative. Which silo would we want represented?
- NSTIC lead
- GoogleApps
- Kantara

* OSIdM4HE update
Reports out are due 16-September. There are 4 subgroups, and they appear to be making some progress. There will be a presentation at the I2MM about this, details TBD.

*Misc.
Google and Verizon appear to be poised to make an announcement, related to using the identity information connected to cell-phone billing as a means to increase the LoA of Google identities.