*MACE conference call, September 25, 2000*

*Attendees*

Bob Morgan (chair)
Michael Gettes
Jim Jokl
Steve Carmody
Ken Klingenstein
Keith Hazelton
Renee Frost
Ben Chinowsky (scribe)

*Discussion*

The meeting opened with short project status updates for Shibboleth, eduPerson, the LDAP Recipe, and the PKI Labs. IBM has promised Shibboleth a key product-comparison document; Ken and Bob are working to uncover the reasons for the delay. There was discussion of some interesting Shibboleth-related work at Columbia that was presented at the recent CSG meeting. The eduPerson group is starting to get feedback on v0.9 and will review it in a conference call on October 2. [AI] Renee will send more eduPerson notes to MACE, and invite Tom Barton and Paula Vaughn to participate in the MACE calls. [AI] Keith and Ken will try to find out more about an upcoming PeopleSoft meeting. Paula Vaughn and Michael recently had a long and fruitful discussion of LDAP implementation issues; Michael is working Paula's notes into the LDAP Recipe and eduPerson FAQ. Keith gave a brief summary of the September 25 PKI Labs inaugural conference call. Several possible areas of research were discussed; a document outlining them is being produced. Keith characterized the call as "pretty sobering". Bob noted that Intel appears to consider privacy "job one".

Next was a discussion of the upcoming TERENA conference. Michael is going; what should he find out about? Suggestions included: issues of trust chains and LDAP extensions for PKI raised by the presentations from the recent Large Scale Directories meeting (http://www.terena.nl/task-forces/tf-lsd/tf-lsd000920agenda.txt), possibilities for European-MACE collaboration (H.323 was suggested, but it is apparently much more difficult to do H.323 from Europe than from the UK), and the issue of who will pay for intercontinental links.

Finally MACE discussed next steps for the directory-of-directories project. Ken has drafted a short document to be used to secure resources for these next steps; he noted that now is a good time to be looking for these resources, and asked what issues need to be included in the document. It was noted that there is no shortage of Internet2 schools that either have LDAP deployments or will have them soon; several have already expressed interest in participating. Bob noted the importance of securing adequate technical support for the task of producing and maintaining the dir-of-dir Web page, and noted that direct LDAP clients are harder to implement than Web pages. Bob identified achieving scalability via indexing as a central technical issue. Hedburg's approach to this is the leading one; [AI] Bob will engage Roland Hedburg in discussion about choosing an approach to indexing protocols. Other issues raised included using LDAP only vs. using XML, and deciding what search keywords to include for institutions. [AI] Ken will incorporate this discussion into his dir-of-dir document; he will send it to MACE for review, then to Sun and MACE-Dir.

*Action Items*

[AI] Renee will send more eduPerson notes to MACE, and invite Tom Barton and Paula Vaughn to participate in the MACE calls.
[AI] Keith and Ken will try to find out more about an upcoming PeopleSoft meeting.
[AI] Bob will engage Roland Hedburg in discussion about choosing an approach to indexing protocols.
[AI] Ken will incorporate this discussion into his dir-of-dir document; he will send it to MACE for review, then to Sun and MACE-Dir.