*MACE Conference Call*
August 22, 2005

*Attendees*

Bob Morgan (chair) - Washington
Ton Verschuren - SURFnet
Neal McBurnett - Internet2
Brian Gilmore - Edinburgh
Paul Hill - MIT
Jim Jokl - Virginia
David Wasley - independent
Ken Klingenstein - Colorado/Internet2
Rodney McDuff - Queensland
Lynn McRae - Stanford
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Bob called the group's attention to a session at the Paris IETF about how the economics of brute-force network attacks are changing due to the wide availability of low-cost zombie computers; providing zombie cycles is now big business. Other noteworthy developments: the SIP WG is now working on specs for SAML for SIP, and a BoF called SECMECH is starting up to sort through the proliferation of means of EAP network access.

The group reviewed the recent EDUCAUSE/Dartmouth PKI Deployment Summit (http://www.educause.edu/content.asp?SECTION_ID=114). Jim noted that there were several attendees from previously unrepresented schools; it also seems like the number of actual deployments is growing. Rodney noted that Queensland is starting a pilot PKI deployment, aiming for production service by the end of 2006; grid apps and document signing are principal drivers. Ton gave an update on plans for a European Server Certificate Service; see http://www.terena.nl/tech/task-forces/tf-emc2/scs.html.

Upcoming meetings:
- The Fall 2005 Internet2 Member Meeting is September 19-22; see http://events.internet2.edu/2005/fall-mm/agenda.cfm?event=239&day=&track=4&details= for information on the middleware sessions. The MACE dinner is Monday night; see http://events.internet2.edu/2005/fall-mm/sessionDetails.cfm?session=2342&event=239.
- EuroCAMP is November 7-9 in Porto, Portugal; see http://www.terena.nl/tech/eurocamp/nov05/. The program will be similar to the program from the March EuroCAMP. Ton noted that he's not on the program committee this time.

Ken noted that Keith found strong interest in GridShib during his trip to Japan; beta sites have been identified there. There is also growing interest in the US and Europe, and GGF15 (http://www.ggf.org/ggf_events_ggf15.htm) will include a full-day workshop on GridShib. Brian noted a JISC proposal for ShibGrid, which works the other way around from GridShib; see Brian's August 23 note to the MACE list.

Due to an assortment of conflicts, the next MACE conference call will be October 3.