**MACE Call 20-December-2010**
RL "Bob" Morgan, U. Washington (chair)
Ken Klingenstein, Internet2
Tom Barton, U. Chicago
David Wasley, independent
Leif Johansson, SUNET/NORDUnet
Michael Gettes, CMU
Keith Hazelton, U. Wisc. - Madison
Steven Carmody, Brown U.
Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.
Renee Frost, Internet2
Nate Klingenstein, Internet2
Ann West, Internet2
Neal McBurnett, Internet2
Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)
NEXT CALL: 3-January-2011
*Carryover Action Items*
[AI] (Ken) will coordinate a small working group with Heather to look into access control and IdM layer requirements for shared file services, calendaring, and web-conferencing in a federation-centric context.
[AI] (All) with suggestions for other foundations that the Shib Consortium could eventually be embedded in are encouraged to discuss them on the list.
[AI] (All) Volunteers for the ACAMP program committee are encouraged to contact Ann, TomB, or RL "Bob"
[AI] (Ken) will convene a small subgroup of MACE to consider the seed corn issues in more depth and report back on a forthcoming call, soon.
[AI] (Ken) will invite Mike Conlin (U. Florida), the VIVO PI, to a forthcoming MACE call.
[AI] (Keith) will maintain an issues list to inform a potential new charter for MACE-DirNG, syncing it with the FedApps charter.
[AI] (RLBob, Scott, and SteveO) will proceed with the process of formalizing the FedApps working group, including setting up a list/wiki/website, and advertise it in the appropriate venues.
[AI] (Ken) will draft a one-pager about what MACE does and what questions it has, for review by MACE, as a discussion guide with Internet2 leadership.
[AI] (Ken) will distribute a draft requirements framework for VO support engagement
[AI] (David) will contact GSA for an update on the approval process for InCommon Silver.
[AI] (ReneeS) will revisit the list of potential new MACE members on the list.
[AI] (Ken) will revise the mission statement based upon feedback received on the call.
[AI] (Ken) will send out info on DHS secure online transactions
[AI] (Ken) will follow up on a MACE/AMSAC call.
[AI] (Ken) will follow up with Kuali/Rice about I2MI collaboration.
[AI] (Ken) will draft a catalyst doc, covering the key items to be addressed in advising VOs how to use our infrastructure.
[AI] (Leif) will contact Ken/Steven/Tom about potential overlaps between the SDCI proposal and projects in the EU.
[AI] (Leif) will discuss the IDTrust meeting on the PKNG list, seeking feedback.
[AI] (Jens) will speak to an Eduroam rep about communicating with Educause.
[AI] (Ken) will draft and circulate a letter to Rice leadership, requesting input to roadmaps and use cases, and to ensure our projects with Kuali projects are aligned with their high-level strategic direction.
[AI] (Nate) will distribute information to the list about upcoming tactical issues facing MACE
[AI] (All) send Bamboo IAM comments to Tom ASAP for coordination.
[AI] (All) interested in participating in the international collaboration activity contact RL "Bob."
[AI] (RL "Bob") will contact a representative of Kuali Rice about coordinating a call.
[AI] (Ken and Mark) will distribute some information on trust anchors in the context of dynamic network configuration in GENI testbed, as well as for general access control.
[AI] (Ken) will circulate some meeting notes from the last TERENA/ REFEDS meetings.
- EuroACAMP, Vienna
Nov 23-24, 2010
Benn attended. Collaboration platforms were the theme. Will there be a followup, or future TERENA meeting covering this topic?
- CAMP/ACAMP 2011
ACAMP will be adjacent to the JASIG conference in Denver, and will be similar to past ACAMPs. This will be at the end of May, unlike in past years and branded InCommon.
[AI] (All) Volunteers for the ACAMP program committee are encouraged to contact Ann, TomB, or RL "Bob."
Jan 12-14, 2011, Durham NC (Duke)
There will be an InC-Silver session...
Feb 14-18, 2011, San Francisco CA
Feb 14-15, 2011, Lyon France
- IETF 80 - Prague, CR
March 27-April 1, 2011
- Spring 2011 Internet2 Member Meeting
April 18-20, 2011, Arlington, VA
Planning is underway, and a CFP is out with a fairly short deadline -- mid-January.
Date TBD, Mountain View, CA
- 2010 in review
There was a discussion of highlights over the last year, among them:
- new Internet2 CEO
- InCommon cert service
- continuing efforts by InCommon to federate with the US Federal Government
- increasing interest in the community about using social identity logins to access certain resources, and the accompanying proliferation of software being developed to implement this that is less than high quality...
- increasing international components of MACE discussions over the last year
- growing maturity, adoption, and development of IdM
- increased communication between high-profile NSF VOs, seeking to learn from and help each other as they work to implement federated access to resources, especially including COmanage
- CIC ramping up its work in middleware, and concomitant amplification effects
- maturing relationships with Jasig and Kuali
- the addition of a federation track to the Internet2 member meetings, which was very successful - the most attended track - and reflects the growing interest in the community
- the continuing popularity and success of CAMP and ACAMP
- the progress being made toward a Shibboleth Consortium
- Grouper-Dev becoming very gelled, and making very substantial progress especially in integration with other technologies, and standards work (SPML)
- growing interest in an open-source person registry. The Jasig effort in this space was noted, but its current status and future is somewhat unclear. The COmanage work on a person registry is VO-centric and likely wouldn't translate well to the enterprise...
- various ISOC engagements: PEER, Fed evangelism, Moonshot
PEER is making good progress, under the TERENA/REFEDs umbrella. One part is to build a UI workflow, allowing registration of metadata. The other is to build a validating module for metadata. Work is expected to accelerate after the new year. The goal is run one PEER instance, but which organization will operate the service long term is not yet decided...
Federation evangelism has been the subject of recent attention. REFEDs is a useful venue for supporting global R&E federations, but new entities are surfacing that are not strictly R&E -- e.g. medical, design, etc. Perhaps ISOC might be the appropriate venue for taking this on as part of their global Internet evangelism. This may develop soon into a concrete proposal to ISOC. It is not clear yet how interested existing federations and REFEDs are in this.
- MACE-Dir/Shib OpenID/social-ID discussion
There is a long thread on this on the MACE-Dir mailing list, which led to an extended (and very well attended) discussion on the most recent Shib-dev call. Keith and Steven are working on notes, and one goal is to take the high-level use cases in the wiki and distill them down into generic and deeper forms. The conversation will continue off-week on the Shib-dev bridge, and on the Shib-Dev list. A near-term goal is to develop a short list of work items to be addressed, some of which will go to MACE-Dir.
There will be some overlap with the new MACE-FedApp working group, which will be more of a coordinating activity across a number of related topics.