*MACE Conference Call*
September 17, 2007

*Attendees*

Bob Morgan (chair) - Washington
Jim Jokl - Virginia
Ken Klingenstein - Colorado/Internet2
Neal McBurnett - Internet2
Steve Carmody - Brown
Tom Barton - Chicago
Ann West - Internet2
David Wasley - independent
Nate Klingenstein - Internet2
Keith Hazelton - Wisconsin
Renee Frost - Michigan/Internet2
Rodney McDuff - Queensland
Scott Cantor - OSU
Steve Olshansky - Internet2
Ben Chinowsky (scribe) - Internet2

*Discussion*

Recent meetings:
- Keith and Nate were at CANS; presentations, including Nate's, are at http://cans2007.edu.cn/en/program.htm. Beijing University professor Zhang Bei is using Shibboleth on a portal and has written papers on Shib with some of her students; CERNET has plans to experiment with it. The middleware sessions at APAN were sparsely attended. Nate noted that the current APAN middleware working group will disband after its January meeting in Hawaii; however, there will likely be a new group to take up this work.
- Ken described the REFEDS meeting as "excellent"; it was almost entirely devoted to policy issues, and five continents were represented. The UK federation is working on an extensive report on the legal issues, due out at end of January. Ken expects many of the action items from the REFEDS meeting to be addressed in this report; JISC has a big stake in international federation peering, so the report won't just be concerned with UK-specific issues. Ken also noted that everyone at the meeting saw COmanage-type services as useful, and that similar activities are underway in other countries. The agenda for the meeting, with a link to the ENISA wiki, is at http://www.terena.org/activities/refeds/workshop-01/.
- REFEDS was followed by an EMC2 meeting; presentations are at http://www.terena.org/activities/tf-emc2/meetings/9/.

Upcoming meetings:
- Keith is scheduled to present a 20-minute summary on enterprise federations at the Oct. 3-5 Mellon/NSF workflow meeting in Baltimore. Most of the agenda is focused on scientific and scholarly workflow.
- There will be a National Archives workshop on federated data repositories on November 14-15. The meeting will be focused on the needs of the Federal Government, but the organizers are seeking MACE's expertise. Ken is the contact.
- Bob's paper has been accepted for presentation at the ISOC Board special session on trust (http://www.isoc.org/isoc/general/trustees/headlines/20070809.shtml).
- The program for the October 8-11 Internet2 Member Meeting is at http://events.internet2.edu/2007/fall-mm/agenda.cfm. Steve Olshansky noted that MACE-dinner guest speaker kc claffy will also be attending the DNSSEC BoF on Monday afternoon. Ken is continuing to organize the Collaboration Tools and Identity Management BoF; he noted that the leading use case appears to be making wiki access controls match those used for email lists.
- A draft program for the November 14-15 EuroCAMP in Dubrovnik is at http://www.terena.org/activities/eurocamp/november07/programme1.html.

Steve Carmody and Michael are continuing the discussions with Atlassian that started at the June Advanced CAMP, and working on use cases.

Ann is working with NITLE (http://www.nitle.org/) on a project to survey their community (liberal arts schools) and develop a plan to help them make use of federations. NITLE is interested in offering managed services.

*Action Items*

(from previous calls)
[AI] Michael will report on progress on the Collaborative Organizations pilot service at the Member Meeting, and write up a description of this work for MACE after that.
[AI] Bob and Ken will contact Jane Charlton and Josh about the operational and policy aspects of applying Shibboleth to Confluence in the UK.
[AI] Ken will send MACE discussion points for the Mellon/NSF workflow meeting.
[AI] Ken will ping his National Archives contact for a workshop agenda, and circulate it to the list.
[AI] Bob will draft recommendations for app developers re AuthN/AuthZ (attributes), and post them to a wiki; Leif will provide references for J2EE text.
[AI] Ken will set up an outreach, education, and support conference call, and notify MACE.
[AI] Bob will organize a conference call about getting mace-collab-core going.
[AI] Bob will talk to Vinay Kumar about possible roles for 9Star in supporting MACE-ware.
[AI] Keith will draft a summary of the OpenID discussion on the May 14 MACE call, for further discussion on the MACE list.