**MACE Call 12-October-2009**

**Attending**

RL "Bob" Morgan, U. Washington (chair)

Scott Cantor, The Ohio State U.

Ken Klingenstein, Internet2

Tom Barton, U. Chicago

Mark Poepping, CMU

Leif Johansson, SUNET/NORDUnet

Keith Hazelton, U. Wisconsin

David Wasley, independent

Renee Shuey, Penn State

Steve Olshansky, Internet2 (scribe)

*Carryover Action Item*

[AI] (All) interested in participating in the international collaboration activity contact RL "Bob."

[AI] (RL "Bob") will contact a representative of Kuali Rice about coordinating a call.

[AI] (Ken and Mark) will distribute some information on trust anchors in the context of dynamic network configuration in GENI testbed, as well as for general access control.

[AI] (Ken) will circulate some meeting notes from the last TERENA/ REFEDS meetings.

*Recent Meetings*

- Fall Internet2 Member Meeting

Oct. 5-8, 2009, San Antonio, TX

http://events.internet2.edu/2009/fall-mm/

Turnout at, and response to, the middleware-related sessions was very good.

- DIDW/Kantara

September 14-16, 2009, Las Vegas NV

http://public.cxo.com//conferences//index.html?conferenceID=51

http://kantarainitiative.org/wordpress/about/

Scott and RL "Bob" attended. Kantara is working to establish itself and has several working group. Some are carried over from Liberty, while others are new. The "Universal Login Experience" WG is being led by RL "Bob."

- Jasig Unconference

September 28-30, 2009, Champaign, IL

http://www.jasig.org/jasig-unconference-coming

Tom and Jens attended. There was some discussion of uPortal using Grouper for its native groups management, but Grouper does not (yet?) have the capabilities required. There is however potential for tight integration, and discussions on this are ongoing.

There was also discussion about what open source communities should say about themselves to engender confidence among the target user community (i.e. "customers") in their project output esp. as compared to commercial alternatives, including the criteria for becoming committers, cycle times for responding to bug and vulnerability reports, and the process for evaluating and incorporating external contributions.

- CSG

September 23-24, 2009, Virtual

http://dev.stonesoup.org/meetings/0909/

- Tao of Attributes workshop

September 28-29, 2009, Washington DC

http://middleware.internet2.edu/tao-of-attributes/

There is a proposed follow-on activity of setting up a schema repository (schemapedia?). More to come on this as it develops.

*Upcoming Meetings*

https://spaces.internet2.edu/display/MACECalendar/MACE+Calendar

- Fall EuroCamp

Date TBD (likely late Fall), Budapest Hungary

http://www.terena.org/activities/eurocamp/

This will be similar to Advanced CAMP. There is growing momentum around aligning IAM/security efforts across projects...

- EMC2+Mobility+Refeds,

October 21-22, 2009, Rome, Italy

http://www.terena.org/activities/tf-emc2/

RL "Bob" will be attending.

- IETF

November 8-13, 2009, Hiroshima, Japan

http://www.ietf76.jp/

- IIW

Nov. 3-5, 2009, Mountain View, CA

http://iiw9.eventbrite.com/

http://iiw.idcommons.net/

- EDUCAUSE Annual

Nov. 3-6, 2009, Denver, CO

http://www.educause.edu/E2009

- Kuali Days

Nov. 17-18, 2009, San Antonio, TX

http://www.kuali.org/kd/

Integrating Grouper with KIM will be a topic of discussion, as well as more generally the relationship between KIM and I2MI.

**Discussion**

There is interest from the iPlant and GENI communities in I2MI and federation. More to come as this develops.

- InCommon/I2MI planning and budget

There was a brief discussion about the outlook for 2010. More to come as information becomes available.

- the MACE brand and I2MI projects

What is MACE's (1) general purpose, (2) purpose in describing an approach to the IdM landscape, and (3) purpose in endorsing specific products in the IdM space? How does MACE relate to other activities, such as ECAM, Kantara, GÉANT, etc.? This will be discussed in more depth on the next call.

- interfederation and business models

InCommon in a competitive landscape was the subject of a brief discussion, including political pressure on SPs to join one federation or another.