*MACE conference call, September 11, 2000*

*Attendees*

Bob Morgan (chair)
Renee Frost
Ken Klingenstein
Neal McBurnett
David Wasley
Keith Hazelton
Jim Jokl
Mark Poepping
Steve Carmody
Ben Chinowsky (scribe)

*Discussion*

The group opened the meeting by extending a welcome to David and Jim. [AI] New MACE members Jim Jokl and David Wasley will check to see if they have access to the MACE archives on mail.internet2.edu.

Discussion then moved on to project status updates. The Shibboleth ball is still in IBM's court; [AI] Ken will work with IBM to schedule a conference call on Shibboleth, aiming for early in the week of September 25. Ken noted that he was calling from a meeting of the Survivors of the Shoah Visual History Foundation, and that "they want this technology, but they want it next week". The Digital Library Foundation is also eager to align its authentication and authorization work with MACE's.

In directories work, the LDAP recipe (http://www.georgetown.edu/giia/internet2/ldap-recipe/) is now at v1.3. Feedback, both formal and informal, is starting to come in for eduPerson. In general the response has been very postive, but it includes lots of questions, especially about identifiers, and in particular the EPPN and how it differs from an email address. It was agreed that a companion document (possibly to become part of the LDAP Recipe) will be needed to address these topics. [AI] Renee will send MACE-Dir eduPerson feedback from EA. [AI] Ken will summarize some of the discussions he's heard on eduPerson (particularly EPPN and email) and send to MACE-Dir. [AI] Renee and Keith will set up an eduPerson call, aiming for the week of September 25.

In PKI work, PKI Labs awards have been made to Dartmouth and Wisconsin; the first PKI Labs conference call will be September 25. Several PKI events are planned for next week's CSG meeting. [AI] Bob will plan a face-to-face MACE meeting at CSG. HEPKI-PAG is close to having all major cert-policies issues defined. HEPKI-TAG has reached a consensus on dc= naming and is working on mobility and certs-in-browsers issues. Ken noted that both TAG and PAG will hold panel discussions at the Fall Internet2 Member Meeting. Internet2 is encouraging I2-MI to bring IT architects; the usual mix at the Member Meetings tends more toward CIOs and net engineers. There will also be other PKI sessions, as well as directories and introductory middleware sessions.

Ken introduced the Internet2 "throw it long" document now being drafted. This document aims to bring descriptions of the the major medium- and (especially) long-term goals of Internet2 together in one place. Ken asked the group what they would like to see put into this document. Suggestions included ensuring the broad availability of advanced apps to non-technical people, developing models for protecting intellectual property that work for Internet2 universities, preserving privacy, and integrating IPv6 and security to "get us out of the NAT mess". [AI] Ken will add the ideas suggested by the MACEochists to the "throw it long" document. He also encouraged the group to keep those ideas coming.

Finally the group discussed plans for the inaugural MACE H.323 call on September 18. Megaconference II chief Bob Dixon will attend; Ken noted that H.323 still has not really tackled the issues of authorization and addressing, and suggested H.323 videoconferencing as an application that could be used to highlight the importance of middleware in the "throw it long" document. [AI] Ken will send out details for the September 18 H.323 videoconference. [AI] All September 18 H.323 participants will send the MACE list information on the equipment they plan to use. The question was asked, are there any "viable low-rent choices" other than NetMeeting? Bob suggested "the venerable CUSeeMe" and noted that Macintosh H.323 software is coming soon. [AI] Bob will send the list information on Macintosh H.323 software. [AI] Ben will send the URL for the ViDe Videoconferencing Cookbook to the MACE list.

*Action Items*

[AI] New MACE members Jim Jokl and David Wasley will check to see if they have access to the MACE archives on mail.internet2.edu.
[AI] Ken will work with IBM to schedule a conference call on Shibboleth, aiming for early in the week of September 25.
[AI] Renee will send MACE-Dir eduPerson feedback from EA.
[AI] Ken will summarize some of the discussions he's heard on eduPerson (particularly EPPN and email) and send to MACE-Dir.
[AI] Renee and Keith will set up an eduPerson call, aiming for the week of September 25.
[AI] Bob will plan a face-to-face MACE meeting at CSG.
[AI] Ken will add the ideas suggested by the MACEochists to the "throw it long" doc.
[AI] Ken will send out details for the September 18 H.323 videoconference.
[AI] All September 18 H.323 participants will send the MACE list information on the equipment they plan to use.
[AI] Bob will send the list information on Macintosh H.323 software.
[AI] Ben will send the URL for the ViDe Videoconferencing Cookbook to the MACE list.